My Book and Heart shall never part

When I was watching the movie, Sutter's question came to mind, "is there really such a thing as a child?" You know, after watching the movie I would have to say I don't know. Little Goody two shoes did many grown up things, teaching other childeren how to read, starting a college, getting married; she was a little adult. But during the movie, I watched the kids in the audience, there was a child wearing a wolf mask doing random scarings, children running up and down the isles, basically doing what children do best. I can't buy into the idea that literacy leads to knowledge and knowledge steals the idea of being a child. Why do we call a baby lion a cub, why not just a little adult lion? From the moment they are born they are learning. The only reason I brought up the point of the lion is in the movie they stated that we were reading nature and vise versa. We are one in the same. I guess another question I have is WHY IS THE IDEA OF CHILD IMPORTANT? I almost feelt that we read to much into this. Instead, I like the idea presented by the movie that Reading is a form of playing for a child. A fun way to attain knowledge. WHy can't the discussion just end there? Maybe it is human nature to try and find ansewers that aren't needed. Humans suffer from a need to always know when we should instead just be. We suffer from misplaced concreteness.

Test questions

Stories to study
1). Little Mermaid, Little Red Riding Hood, Cinderella, Hanzel and Grettel, Beuty and Beast, Sleeping Beauty, Rapunzel, East of Sun West of Moon Bluebeard, Juniper tree

2).Archetypical character from Joyce's Finnigans Wake: Prank Queen
-queen important

3). Portmanteau: Many meanings, two words combined to form one
-example: Slythie: slimy and slythery

4). Misplaced concreteness: a question not needed to be asked
- Hans the hedgehog riding on rooster
5).Little Red Riding Hood:
-type 333 fairy tale
-"If your crafty you will get them both"
6). The collective unconcious that is seen in fairytales: Archetypes
7). 3 parts of cambell's universal quest:
-seperation
-initiation
-return
8). 3 parts of triple goddess
-mother
-maiden
-crone
9). Why is there no original fairytale: They are all displaced myth
10). You bow to the divine
11). Disney's Genie in Aladin= myth not history
12). Different version of fairytales=important!!!!!
13). Motif index of East of Sun West of Moon
-similar to Beuty and Beast and Hans my Hedgehog
-Searching husband/beast group of fairytales
14). most stories about parents struggle to concieve a child
-Bluebeard is not about this
15). Dynamic mother and daughter duo
-persephone and Demeter
16). hmm Hiaku: Stanzas equal 5,7,5
17). many significances to Bluebeards beard
18). Beauty and Beast transformation happens because of love
19). the Archetype of a talking animal happens in THE GOLDEN ASS
20). Why did Cupid wake up in Cupid and Psyche: Hot oil dripped on him
-similar to East of Sun West of moon
21). Example of spoonerism: sugly uisters
22). Romantic poet that beleived man knew everything from birth
-Wordsworth
23). Grimm's story with a witch: Hanzel and Gretel
24). Auther that loved Little Red Riding Hoood (1rst love): Charles Dickons
25). Celtic Cinderella had an ewe

Fun Facts, east of sun west of moon

1). Variant of Beauty and Beast; Hans my Hedgehog
2). once again, 3 and 7 = important numbers
3). White bear wants youngest merchants daughter
-economic status important in this story
4). daughter (unlike Beauty and Beast is reluctant to go with the bear)
5). Mothers advice brings trouble
-prince's mother forces him to marry lady with 3 elles long nose
6). While daughter is wandering, meets 3 old ladies with important objects
-Golden apple
-Golden comb
-Golden spinning wheel
a). all used to bribe big nosed princess
7). she used the winds to find the castle

Other stuff on Juniper tree

1). Important names to remember: Phillip Outto Runge; Atreus (Greek myth)
2). Apple is the childs undoing, object of desire, leads to death
3). Important objects
-Gold chain
_Red shoes
-Millstone

Blue Beard

1). Other names: Silver noose; lord of the underworld
2). Curiosity of wife seen as bad, not his serial killer ways
-curiousity of women is a common moral that is warned against
3). In the intro, Bluebeard had seven wives, in story she was the fourth
4). Alive wifes brothers
-Dragoon
- Musketeer

Snow White

1). Other name Sneewitchen
2). she was 7 when the mirror acknowledged her as fairest
-7 is an important number in fairy tales like the 3
a). hmm...seven dwarfs
4). story similar to Goldylocks
5). Important name to remember :Sandra Guber

Beauty and the Beast

1). Remeber story of cupid and psyche
-the golden ass (talking animals)
- King lear
2). Love was the transformation
3). Beauty had 2 other sisters and 3 brothers

Cinderella and Hanzel and Gretel

Cinderella
1). uses nature as helper
-fish
-calf
-tree
a). these later become fairy god mother

Hanzel and Gretel
1). Folklorists say this is "Children and the Ogre" type of tale
2). Englebert Humperdink made the other children turn to gingerbread
3). 1rst time in woods, Hanzel uses pebbles to find his way home
-when mother asked what he stopped for, he was looking at his cat
4). 2nd time in woods he used crumbs the birds ate
- this time he was looking at his dove
-birds lead to their entrapment and escape
5). Brunno Bettleheim said this was a warning for curious children (Greed of children)
6). The witch had red eyes
7). Hanzel used a bone as his finger when the witch checked to see how fat he was

little red riding hood notes

1).Other names: Rotkappchen; Le petite rouge
2). Grandmother = alcoholic
-red nose is indicator
Lois Lowrey- Numbor the stars
3). Frued and Ann sexon say cutting of belly is symbolic of birth

Cinderella rebutal

A prince charming doesn't care to look where beauty may be found

all he wants to know is "your ass flat or round?"

Is she a good person is not something he will care

all he really wants to know is what color is her underwear!

A bit crude a bit unfair I may seem

but I live in a real world where men like him have a scheme.

A woman like cinderella is a notch on a belt

the love he will give is not heart felt.

Be with him and see if I'm right

If you marry a "prince charming" get ready for a fight.

You don't know him, love for looks isn't real

You might understand this when he is drunk and says "Honey! damn it where is my meal!"

If there is a moral, looks can decieve, get to know the person instead.

You must look with your eyes, your heart and your head.

It doesn't matter if he is HOTT and has the attributes of a horse!

If you think like this ladies, I hope you love divorce!

What is child, nature and a book

Well....gee...I guess I believe a child and nature can have a variety of meanings.  First I can see nature as the outdoors, but also as a state of being.  I have been asked the question "What is your nature" many different times in my life.  It is a hard question for me to answer.  What is it that drives me?  What makes me react to certain things?  That could be a definition of nature.  Now for child, what is a child?  A child of course could be a child but I also buy into that child is synonomus to innocence like Wordsworth would argue.  Child can also be a state of being.  A book to me, is a story that is all