Rough Draft paper topic

What I want to do in my paper is look at what characteristics defined the beast and compare them to other archtypes such as the byronic hero or the pioneer hero. From little bits I have gathered, there is many similarities between them. What does this mean for Childrens literature exactly when there are so many commonalties between a major figure in childrens literature and created characters in "scholarly" literature? Is "sophisticated" literature just another version childrens literature? Let me know what you think

Great Website

http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alice7b.html
I thought this sight was interesting. It talks about the origins of the poems used in Carrols through the looking glass!

Test stuff

SUBJECT MATTER:
talbot pages
Alice Chapters
-wool and water, humpty, tweedle dee/dum, caepillar,
Questions of morals
My Book and Heart
Mrs. Sexons lecture

1). Illustrator of Alice
- Tenniel
2). Last word of B and B
- Virture
3). The Worms win after death but we can triumph over worms through art

4). Oscar Wilde
-Life Imitates art
5). 5 themes
- myth, history, art, dream and coincidence
6). White Knight in Alice
-presumed to be Carrol
7). How doth the busy bee.....moral
-paradist counterpart the crocodile

8). Mock turtle sings to Alice aboout
-soup (original a beautiful star)

9). Madhatters riddle: Raven like writing desk
- answer: I have no idea

10). After shakespear most quoted English author
-Lewis Carrol

11). ______ is a depersonalized blank ________ and _____is a personalized ________

12). Portmanteau : ginormous

13). Rudest of all flowers
- violet

14). aniema-
-soul

15). Who is the volcano
- Alice

16). Where does alice live in us
- the collective unconcious or dust

17). what happens when alice takes her first drink in wonderland
-she shrinks 10 inches

18). Title of deleted chapter of through the looking glass
- wasp and the wing

20).How does Alice offend the mice
- cats
21). Protistant Reformation
- teach moral values

22). 1rst bible in America
-published in Algonquian

23). Before Darwin, 2 animals that sparked controversy when it came to evolution
-Mammoth and monkey

24). Invention that had huge influence on prodistent reformation
-Guttenburg press or printing press

25). Why is madhatter mad? Mecury poisining
-misplaced concreteness

26). Anogram

27). White Rabbit drop when he scares alice
-White gloves and a fan (makes her shrink)

28). What do beauties tears turn into in the movie
-diamonds

29). When reading a story trust the tale not the teller
-D.H. Lawerence

30). Im interested because its interesting
- tatology (circle arguement)

31). Goody two shoes is an emblam of perfection
-adults lack perfectioion

32). According to the tweedles If alice is part of the red kings dream what are they?
-ditto ditto ditto

33). What causes the walrus and carpenter to weep
-sand

34). What image of Alice was in a dream of a person in class
-Flyin pig

35). English class is the dark side

36. Most prolific serial killer in British history
-Marry Ann cotton

37. 2 primary ghosts in Talbot
-SId james and the white lady

38). Last line of alice poem
- Life what is it but a dream?

39. Walter pader
- All art inspires for the tradition of music

40. Text informs reality....Book and Heart

Favorite Chapters

first ...my favorite is the poole of tears. Alice becomes confused about her identity as her size changes, mirroring the confusion that occurs during the transition from childhood to adulthood. The reality that she is too large to fit into the garden produces confusion over who she is, which Alice responds to with bouts of crying and self-reproach. Unable to accept the changes she is experiencing, she questions her own identity. Since she cannot remember her own lessons, she believes that she must not be Alice anymore. At first, Alice assumes that she may in fact be someone she knows. The comparisons she draws between herself and Mabel show her class-consciousness, as well as her ties to the material trappings of the Victorian world. Though she tries to use chains of reasoning suited to the aboveground world, the paradox of Wonderland is that she must accept the logic of nonsense or she will go mad with contradiction.

Alice tries to deal with her predicament reasonably, but the episode in the pool of tears illustrates how easily Wonderland distracts her from reason and causes her to react emotionally. The sea of tears is like a punishment for Alice's giving in to her own emotions. Alice vacillates between crying and scolding herself, going back and forth between emotion and reason. However, as she swims, she doesn't notice that the landscape has transformed around her. The great hall has become an ocean, while the floor has become a dry “shore.” Instead of reacting to her predicament by rationalizing the problem or starting to cry, she distracts herself by trying to figure out how to address the Mouse. Alice has started to react with total detachment to the absurd situations in which she finds herself. As she proceeds throughout her journeys, she will continue to encounter problems that cause her to react with extremes of emotion or reason. However, in this scene, she has begun to take the absurdities of Wonderland at face value, allowing herself to become distracted so that she ignores the real problem at hand.
It begs the question does our imagination interfere with reality or is reality in our imagination. My parents always used to tell me not to let the life I have today interfere with the life I have today....this chapter helps illustrate that!

Favorite Chapters

my dream

The heart of southwest nowhere, this is where my dream ends. A cold desolate nowhere, where sun shines coldly and hearts grow into it, and, my drem, a story which painfully I will only forever bind together and be bound between past and future heartaches. The earth here is frozen. It is a marvelously ugly place- a delicately unyielding land, where I and too many others have watched leaves land painfully frozen on the grounds where we, too, will fall only to be forgotten. No one here is a stranger, at least to the pain of losses known. And, no one here is lonely without having at least their loneliness, and the shared sense that looms here.
Oh, this place, with daunting memories, where I fell in love. Oh, this place, this place where I fell too quickly out of love, then back in love again. Falling the second time only for this sacred place of loneliness- the guardian of many hollow men alike, empty men such as myself. This place and I are both so filled with a mutual agony and the few tears we still have left. Quarantined from the rest world in hopeless desperation, I live along side all that are lonely in this place which darkness endlessly expands in all dimensions, ever growing from the solitude within each of us who occupy this space. And strewn about this occupied vacancy and I, too, are many dreams once had like this one, and prayers unanswered. Many people have died here before, all of them so much alike, and like us to be, all of us- shadows of those before.
Such are all stories written here, left on pages to be untold and still known. Chronicles printed in blood on forests replanted that wait until the last page is read, turned, then torn, and even then our roots remain in this forest from which we arose. Approaching what seems inevitably certain, I am restless amongst the conclusion of our journey together. Not one with these hopeless souls, but with this ever-constant carrier of sorrows- this land which appears nothing more than opposite to a ship of Phlegyas rushing to certain doom. I have no idea what lies ahead, but rest in knowing that it positively cannot be a place more empty and bleak than here.
I feel relief in the moment of knowing that I will leave this horrible place, even as I am unsure of the encounters that lie ahead. In this exact moment, however, I am mournful in knowing that this place is all I've ever known, and this place is all I've had. And, as I prepare to depart this land of lost desires, and leave behind broken spirits so similar to mine, my legs grow weak and I tremble in remorse. I fall to the ground with the last of my tears and wish to this place that it may find peace. I, prepared now for anything, offer this land my last drop of blood and in my last words to be carried away in her wind I say to her, "Goodbye, my friend."


Im awake now, not knowing if I slept or lived my nightmare. Im left with dispare and loneliness. I feel my insides turning every which way like there is some demon devouring my feelings and my intestines. Was it really a nightmare? God I'm not sure. I have lost a part of me somewhere in the midsts of the cold dark night. All I can hope for is that someone finds it and uses it. What ever it is. Im not sure if it is the materials we read for this class, usually Im a happy boy, and now that I am awake I am! No I can't tell the dream relm from reality. It is nothing like Alice in Wonderland....I am glad to be home in reality! For the first time in a while I actually was a little emotional because of this dream! Im not emotional all to often. So now my question is were my tears real if this was a dream? Does it matter if they were? I hope my next dream is like the majority, happy! This one was a rare nightmare.

my paper

I am curious to see how the beast character has influenced literature. We see many of the same attributes of the beast with the byronic hero and the frontier hero....hmmm....thats about all I got now